This is the first of three posts I’m going to make about subspace.
In this post I’m going to describe the overwhelmingly intense experience I had the first time I encountered subspace.
In my next post, I will describe my general observations of and conclusions about subspace as experienced by the submissives in my care.
In my third post, I will describe some rather more technical observations I’ve made regarding the physiological and neurological mechanisms of subspace (and a little of the psychological). My observations, however, aren’t all that technical, given that I’m not any sort of scientist who would know about, or be in a position to verify such things.
I’ve read a lot of different things about subspace online, and I’ve spoken with a lot of different people about it.
There seems to be incredibly little, if any technical material written about the physiological, neurological, and psychological mechanisms of subspace, which I think is unbelievably disappointing. I suppose it’s yet another example of how people who aren’t in the mainstream are disregarded as a whole by others, which is, I think, unfortunate.
There was a limited discussion of subspace in a yahoo group I belong to. A question was asked about memorable BDSM experiences, and I’d posted about the scene which I describe below. As a result of that post, people were asking about subspace. I did write a post about subspace, but I was asked to remove some links I’d included, since the moderators felt that the inclusion of those links transgressed the rules of the group.
I hasten to add, that the informative text content of the linked pages was not what transgressed the rules of the yahoo group, it was something unrelated to the text.
As I feel the links I’d included were relevant and important to me to include in my post, and since I prefer to respect the rules of the yahoo group, I decided not to (re)submit these posts there. In an effort to maintain the informative content of my post, I thought I’d post them on my blog, and then I may include whatever I like. :)
Those links may be found towards the end of my second post.
I mean, I didn’t even like to think how long the post would end up being if I included the text from all the prohibited links, as well as the text from my post!
It doesn’t bear thinking about, frankly. ;)
So, in the interest of trying to manage my verbosity, I’ve made three posts, of which this is the first one.
I hope you enjoy them. :)
Leading Up To The Event
One month after discovering that I was sexually dominant, whilst attending my first munch, I was invited to my first play party the following week at a private home. At that party, I experienced my first scene with a submissive who was to serve me for the next four months.
- (and who then turned out to be a lying, manipulative stalker, but that’s a whole other story)
At that party, I was invited to another play party the following week, also in a private home. The host who invited me said that he thought it might be a good idea if I’d like to consider dominating a friend of his, who was experiencing some identity confusion and trauma as a result of having been submitting to an abusive dominant.
I was told that the submissive was feeling that he probably wasn’t actually a submissive after all, but was really a dominant, because of his feelings about submission relating to his experiences with the abusive dominant. According to the host of this second party, he thought I’d be able to help his submissive friend resolve some of these issues.
Essentially, I was being asked, as I understood it, to “sort out” a traumatised, confused submissive.
I thought that was one of the most utterly bizarre things I’d ever heard.
Why was he asking me to do this? Everybody knew I was the most complete beginner ever to come out of complete beginnerness. I’d only done one scene in my life, ever. I was thinking to myself “wtf??”
I was so new I still had the shiny wrapping on. I still had the tags on me even, fer chrissake. They didn’t come any newer than me. I was still under warranty. I was still within the 14 day returns period. I was so new I could have been sold on eBay as
- “Mint Condition New Dominant BNWT (No Reserve) !!L@@K!!”
Yet here I was being asked to sort out what sounded like some sensitive and complex issues with an experienced submissive.
Weird.
But inside of me, a little voice was saying, over and over again, insistently:
- “You can do this.“
And I thought to myself, well, maybe I can.
And anyhow, party, cool!
So I went to the party.
The Party
So, I arrived down to the party, and I was introduced to the submissive I’d been told about. He seemed a shy, friendly, considerate sort of person.
We spent a long time talking. He told me something about the experiences he’d had before. I listened. I told him I’d make some hard limits which would not be transgressed unless he himself gave me permission to do so.
One of those limits was the cane.
In the weeks before I’d been in negotiations with a submissive who wanted to be caned. I’d never caned anybody before, but from what I’d read and heard about, the cane is a really dangerous implement which requires great skill to use safely.
The submissive at the party had been really really hurt by the use of the cane by his former dominant.
I must admit, I felt attracted to such an implement. As a violinist, I appreciate precision and skill in the use of tools. I was drawn to the idea of an something which could be an instrument of catharsis, and which, with practice, I could learn to use with expertise.
I had a couple of canes which had been given to me by the submissive with whom I’d been in negotiations, and I was interested to try them out. But I was also happy not to use them, if my play partner didn’t want to engage in that activity.
So we agreed that we’d both like to proceed, without the cane.
And that was how it happened that the second scene I ever did was with a submissive who had been abused by his former dominant.
The Scene
1. Spanking
I asked him to strip, which he did without appearing reluctant or embarrassed in any way. He put his clothes in a tidy folded pile on a chair.
I started off very slowly, and warmed him up with some strokes with the riding crop, and an over the knee spanking. I alternated regularly between strokes with force, and sensual touch, both with my hands, and with the implements I was using.
I was enjoying watching how his skin was blushing up with my ministrations. I could feel the extra warmth from his pink skin feeding its way up to my hands. I found the whole thing quite overwhelming and very, very, very hot.
I loved stroking his bum slowly, caressing it with my hand, feeling the warmth, over the areas I’d just been using with force. I loved feeling his body over my knees, pressing into me, squirming with excitement at every touch, whether the touch was with force or with gentle care.
His squirming was incredible. I could feel every single response from his body expressing itself through my lap and abdomen, where his body was against mine.
- Wow. Hot.
I checked with him regularly and he seemed unequivocally to be enjoying himself immensely, perhaps even more than I was. His voice sounded incredibly emotional. He started slurring his words slightly, which I thought was because of the excitement.
During the spanking, he started begging me to please be allowed to take my cane for me.
I carried on with the spanking, which was really exciting me, and was considering the cane, as he continued to beg more and more urgently to please, please, may he be allowed to take my cane for my pleasure.
His begging was really quite delicious. :)
So, ultimately, hot with excitement, and also feeling seriously cautious, I agreed to use my cane on him.
2. The Cane
He was a really tall, well built man, and we were in quite a small spare bedroom, and it was difficult to put him in a convenient position to take the cane, but eventually we worked one out.
I began with light taps up and down his bum and his legs. I was enjoying the springy feel of the cane as it swung and bounced in my hand, the sounds as it swished through the air, and the juicy ”THWAP“ every time it landed on his flesh.
Mmmmmmm, mmm, mmm, mmmmmmmMMMMM.
Increasingly, he was begging me with more and more urgency to please hit him harder, and harder, and harder.
I had to be extremely careful because there was very little clearance on the other side of him, and I had to make sure that the tip of the cane cleared his body, without catching on the chest of drawers on the other side.
Gradually, I increased the speed and force of the strikes, tapping him rapidly up and down his body. There were no stripes being left on his skin, just an overall pinkness. I wasn’t using that much force and I was remaining aware and careful to keep it that way.
I lost count of how many strokes I administered, and I wasn’t having him count them, so I really have no idea, but I’m sure it was more than 100, including all the little taps.
3. The Strapon
Earlier on, I’d told him about the strapon harness and dildo which I’d ordered, and had arrived a few days ago. And at this point he started begging in that utterly delicious way he had to please be allowed to take my strapon.
I was keen to try it out, and my submissive was so hot and I was so excited, I pulled the thing out of the toy bag I’d brought, and started buckling it on.
Before I had a chance to finish buckling it on, he turned around from where he was on his knees, and started sucking it.
Wow.
That was hot, from the planet Hot, and the city of Hotness and the neighbourhood of Hotosity.
Fuck.
I had NO idea of all this hotness.
Fucking Wow, with a capital Wow.
I watched him deep throat my strapon for awhile. His eyes were closed, he looked absolutely rapturous. I could feel how deep he was going in his throat by the pressure against my body.
Then I put my hands on his face, and gently turned him around. I got out a latex glove, lubed it up, and started working my fingers into his anus.
He was really open for me, really really. I was able to get three fingers in there almost immediately, no problem. So I put a condom on the dildo, lubed it up, lubed him up, and gently started easing my way inside him.
He was moaning a lot. I couldn’t help moaning too, it was soooooo, well, I mean, more Wow.
He kept telling me how much he belonged to me, how much he was mine, how much he wanted to take everything I ever wanted to dish out, he’d be there. wanting it, begging for more.
He was pushing back at me for all he was worth.
I responded with how much I owned him and how much he belonged to me, and how I was going to take him and use him however I pleased, and how he was just going to LOVE it.
I thought I was going to melt.
Shortly after that, I had to stop. I could see and feel how hard he was pushing back at me, but I could also feel that it was hurting him a little bit, and I didn’t want that to continue for any length of time, so a few minutes later, I asked him to remain still, and I pulled out of him.
Both of us were just so turned on at that stage, but I wasn’t going to go for a release with a submissive whom I didn’t know that well, and I certainly wasn’t going to share my own release with anybody I didn’t know well. So I decided to wind it down.
4. Aftercare
After I pulled out of him, he turned straight around, and I had to prevent him from sucking on the dildo again as he was so keen to do it he wasn’t considering the health implications of putting something in his mouth which had just been up his arse.
More much hotness.
So I pushed him gently back down onto his haunches, and I pulled some wipes out of the toy bag which I’d brought along.
I could have had him clean everything, I suppose, but I prefer to oversee the care and maintenance of my tools myself, and I didn’t after all know him all that well.
So, as I cleaned everything off, I talked with him. He was so appreciative and so grateful, and his eyes were just so full of, I don’t know what, but it was just fabulous!
He spoke of his experiences before, and of his experiences just now in our scene, and what a contrast and difference that was. He said he’d take my cane any time I liked, or absolutely anything else I’d care to use him with.
I told him how pleased I was with him and how much I enjoyed myself, with genuine sincerity.
I checked him over to ensure he hadn’t suffered any serious damage from anything I’d done. I did find three small welts on his far flank, where the tip of the cane hadn’t quite cleared his side and had caught on the chest of drawers.
Considering the sheer number of times I’d thwapped him with it, I was pleased that those three small welts were all there were. I cleaned them with the wipes, and put some antiseptic cream on.
His words were slurring more now, and he was apologising for having had too much to drink. That was when I started to think something was up, because he was a big man and had drunk hardly two bottles of beer with a meal from the barbeque.
I remained in that little spare bedroom for about forty minutes, talking with him, telling him how delicious he was, hearing him tell me how he’d be available anytime for my use however I liked, how he trusted me and felt safe with me, and how I hadn’t hurt him, and how good he felt.
His words slurred less after the forty minutes, so after that I asked him to dress and took him out to the rest of the party so I could relax and socialise and smoke.
I asked my submissive friend to please look after my drinks and snacks, and so we went into the kitchen first to get me a drink.
5. Some Weirdness
In the kitchen, was the abusive dominant who’d abused my submissive friend before. Yes, she was an invited guest to the party, in the home of the same person who’d told me about this guy and how traumatised he was.
Don’t ask me, because I really don’t know. She was there, and that’s who she was, and that’s all I know about it.
As he went to get me my drink, she reached out and grabbed one of his nipples through his shirt, and twisted it. This was one of the things he’d told me that she’d done before which had really hurt him.
And by the way, everybody at the party knew I’d just been scening with him.
So I turned to her and said, quite calmly and matter-of-factly:
- “I’m so sorry, I haven’t released him yet. If you want to play with him, please consult me first.”
Now, I’m remembering that this is only my second ever scene knowing I was a dominant. Two months ago I’d never been to a munch or a play party. I’d read one thin paperback about domestic discipline, and talked to a few people. I’d had one other scene with a submissive and was at my second ever play party.
How did I know to say that!?!?
I have no idea, and don’t ask me, cos I just don’t know the answer.
But anyhow, that’s what I said, and the result was really quite startling.
Her body posture, which had been tall and erect and proud, kind of crumpled up, and she looked just like a six year old girl who’d been caught in the biscuit tin.
She said nothing.
My submissive friend turned around so she couldn’t see his face, and mouthed “Thankyouthankyouthankyou” at me, and then rushed past me and out of the kitchen.
So I went in and fixed my own drink, feeling pleased with myself. I chatted with her, about nothing in particular, but she didn’t say very much.
6. More Aftercare
I went into the living room, and sat down on the sofa. A friend passed me an ashtray, and I enjoyed a cigarette with my drink, and snacked on some nuts in a bowl. Every few minutes I looked up to see my submissive friend in the doorway, watching me, and I smiled to see him.
He smiled back.
Periodically, I’d hold up my nearly empty glass, and he’d fetch me a fresh drink with more ice. This went on for about fifty minutes, as I relaxed and chatted. I was feeling quite exhilarated from the scene, but also quite tired, so I was enjoying the relaxed socialising, with my drink and cigarette.
All this time, he looked and sounded absolutely fine, no word slurring or anything.
And then, I looked up, and he wasn’t there. I wasn’t too worried, I just thought he’d probably gone to the loo or something.
7. The Subspace Part
Twenty minutes later, and he still hadn’t returned. I was starting to feel concerned. There were people waiting to go to the loo, and there was no response from behind the locked door.
It was necessary to break into the loo, because as it turned out, once he was out of my sight, he dropped into the deepest subspace I’ve ever seen, or even heard about. He’d dropped so deeply into subspace that he was unable even to speak or move for himself.
He was absolutely flying.
He dropped so deep, soared so high, so completely suddenly, and after an hour and a half delay, all this resulted in him being in a state which, to observe, felt profoundly shocking and frightening to me. This was only my second ever scene, so I was fairly inexperienced at the time. I had a really hard time getting my head round the fact that I’d done that for him, given that to him. He was uncomprehending and incapable, responding to touch and sound in ways which reminded me of a tiny baby.
But he wasn’t a baby, he was a large, 52 year old man.
It took over two hours, giving him water, talking to him, putting cool cloths on his head, to bring him round. He thought he was drunk, but he’d only had two bottles of beer, with a meal, and he was a really tall, well built man, well over 6 feet in height.
As he came round, I was holding his hand, and talking to him. He kept telling me how grateful he was, how much he appreciated our scene, how safe he felt with me.
He kept apologising for being so out of it. I kept reassuring him that he’d done so well and how pleased I was with him. I didn’t let him leave until I felt he was in a safe enough state to send home in a taxi.
He got home safely, and I checked on him over the next two days. He was fine after that.
Looking Back
I think one of the reasons he dropped so deep was because his fear of being abused again was so intense, and he was so very appreciative of the kindness I’d shown him in the scene. I’ve heard since that delayed subspace can happen like that, although apparently it is fairly rare. It’s been suggested to me that his deep drop was delayed because he’d been around me. Since he flew only after he’d left my presence, that may have been why he didn’t hit profound subspace until then.
Since then, I’ve put my submissives into subspace at some level every time I’ve played with them (and often when I’m not playing with them). Most times I can put them there simply by speaking to them, or touching them (no deliberate hypnosis or any other strategems involved). But never since then have I seen subspace so deep or flying so high as that time at that party.
I know I will never forget that experience. I’ve never observed nor heard about anything like it, either before or since.
I didn’t do any scenes at all for about two months afterwards, trying to digest it.
I can’t say it was the most exciting, or the most wild, or the kinkiest experience I’ve ever had. A lot of people don’t really talk about aftercare. But I think that the aftercare to that scene was what made it so utterly intense and memorable for me.
It was quite overwhelming and frightening even now, reliving it all again as I wrote this.
But also, still, wow, fucking HOT. ;)















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devastatingyet // Monday, 1 October, 2007 at 04:59:54 |
This was a really interesting read, Lubyanka. And, yes, hot. Really hot.
I do have a question. Your playmate specified no caning ahead of time, and then changed his mind during the scene. If something like that happened to you now (a bottom changing his mind about a limit specified ahead of time), would you still go ahead and do whatever the limit thing was (assuming you were otherwise comfortable doing it, wanted to, etc.)?
I’m asking because I consider this to be something that I wouldn’t do – it seems like a bad idea – and I wonder if my sense of that agrees with your experience and thoughts in general and, if not, if you have any thoughts on that. (Actually it would make an interesting post.)
Lady Lubyanka // Monday, 1 October, 2007 at 08:22:04 |
“This was a really interesting read, Lubyanka. And, yes, hot. Really hot.”
Thank you. :)
“I do have a question. Your playmate specified no caning ahead of time, and then changed his mind during the scene. If something like that happened to you now (a bottom changing his mind about a limit specified ahead of time), would you still go ahead and do whatever the limit thing was (assuming you were otherwise comfortable doing it, wanted to, etc.)?”
Then, as now, I decide on a case by case basis.
Caning itself can be like many other kinds of touching with various implements, so there isn’t anything about caning itself which is so idiosyncratic that it’s guaranteed to be triggery every single time in every kind of way (assuming the existence of a caning trigger).
In the case of my submissive friend, the hard limit was clearly due to his recent experiences as an adult with the abusive dominant, and not because of any other health, safety, or deeper, older emotional reason.
If, on the other hand, a person had a hard limit of the cane because of their experiences with it as a non consenting child, then I would in that case respect their limit initially (and possibly always) without exception no matter whether they begged me to transgress it or not.
If the hard limit was not to choke him or otherwise put my hands on his throat in any way, then I would regard that as something I should initially (and possibly always) respect without exception, as a matter of building trust, whether there was begging to transgress or not. That kind of touching is idiosyncratic, and there’s nothing else like it.
In my experience with triggery limits, people do not tend to beg me to transgress those in the more usual subspace states I encounter.
“I’m asking because I consider this to be something that I wouldn’t do – it seems like a bad idea – and I wonder if my sense of that agrees with your experience and thoughts in general and, if not, if you have any thoughts on that. (Actually it would make an interesting post.)”
Many people who are inexperienced, or non-experienced, are not aware that things such as flogging and caning are not inextricably linked with pain. I have encountered many “hard limits” which actually are limits to do with pain, and not at all to do with limits regarding the actual activity in question.
I do not, in principle, ever try to persuade any person to experience any activity which they express is a hard limit to them.
However, if they give pain as a reason for hard limiting flogging or caning, then I will point out to them that their assumptions are erroneous and uninformed.
Many people do not have sufficient self awareness to accurately and comprehensively express prior to play what their actual hard limits and boundaries are. Experience tends to teach people what they can and cannot tolerate, but perceptions of tolerances are not always accurately observed and reported. So far it’s been mostly up to me to determine those, and to respect them when I encounter them.
I will not accept flogging as a hard limit if the reason given for that limit is pain. I don’t know if you saw my post on this? And I won’t accept a hard limit against male-male sexual activity for my gratification, if the reason given for that is “I’m not gay”, or “I’m not bi”.
But in those kinds of situations I am extremely unlikely to play with the person anyway, so the issue doesn’t tend to arise in those cases.
I find that limits and boundaries are very much about the reasons behind them, and I need to take those into account. If I am to have any hope of understanding what’s going on with an individual and their limits, then I need to spend a significant amount of time discussing limits and boundaries and the actual reasons for those limits and boundaries (as opposed to perhaps the perceived reasons for them).
If I only go by what people explicitly tell me about their boundaries, then I am likely to transgress them (and indeed have done so) unwittingly in another way, since the general rules are not always perceptible for people with less than optimal self awareness.
In my experience, not all “hard limits” are equal.
So, the answer to your question, as I said above, is that I decide on a case by case basis, depending on the reasons given.
I hope that was clear? It did seem to go on a bit (again).
Oh well.
Lady Lubyanka // Monday, 1 October, 2007 at 12:29:07 |
ps: I should probably point out that I do totally accept hard limits which may appear really mundane, as long as I feel that the reason is sound.
For example, if a person says they have a hard limit which means they can’t tolerate me wearing gloves, and they give a reason such as having had a horrendous experience with gloves which resulted in something so scary it still gives them nightmares, then I am happy to accommodate that limit and respect it to the best of my ability.
That kind of limit tends not to get mentioned in requests to transgress limits whilst in subspace.
It isn’t really the particular limit, it’s the reason which is important to me, as that reason can indicate other limits which the person may not be aware of.
Ok, stopping now. :)
devastatingyet // Monday, 1 October, 2007 at 16:21:41 |
Thanks! I appreciated the thoroughness.
Mistress Scarlett // Monday, 22 October, 2007 at 21:38:04 |
I was the other Female Domme at the party. I have spoken to a few of the subs at the said party and our version of events differ GREATLY from yours.
You started playing with someone who had been drinking, that in its self is a no-no.
You did anal on someone who has NEVER had anal before again that is wrong.
And you are saying that I was crest fallen when you spoke to ME like that..did you ask ME why? ..the reason was I was told that you were going to go and talk to the sub, and he has since played with ME.
As for cleaning the room you left USED wet wipes all over the room as well as some other stuff, you also left the party after the organiser spoke to you about subs going into sub space, it was left up to others to look after the sub..you pissed off home.
How come you no longer get ANY invites to ANY parties?
could it be you are the one NOT to be trusted.
Lady Lubyanka // Tuesday, 23 October, 2007 at 09:28:15 |
Hello Scarlett, I remember you from the party.
“You started playing with someone who had been drinking, that in its self is a no-no.”
Perhaps our definitions of “drinking” differ? I don’t regard two small bottles of beer with a substantial meal, partaken by a large, well built man several hours before (as I said in the post), to be drinking enough to be unsafe.
Snow herself (who was the hostess of the party), at the time, was insisting to him and to myself that subspace can result in symptoms similar to intoxication with alcohol.
“You did anal on someone who has NEVER had anal before again that is wrong.”
If that were really true, how would anybody ever get anal experience, if they never do it for the first time?
“And you are saying that I was crest fallen when you spoke to ME like that..did you ask ME why? ..the reason was I was told that you were going to go and talk to the sub, and he has since played with ME.”
The way I spoke to you and what I said was entirely polite and respectful. I was within my rights to assert my temporary authority over my submissive friend, which he had consented to, and which he was clearly delighted for me to do.
Your behaviour with my submissive friend was unconsensual. I felt no need to ask you why you looked so small in your response. If you’d wanted to tell me why, you might have done so at the time, and not over a year later.
You didn’t ask me why I was asserting my rights over my submissive friend either. You didn’t ask me why I was playing with him when you thought I’d only be talking with him. And in your comment, you also did not ask about the contradicting information. You made statements. It sounds like there was a whole lot of no asking going on.
TP (the host of the party) asked me himself, in front of witnesses, at the previous party where he invited me, to come and play with that submissive. I was not told that he belonged to anybody. I was not told that I needed to consult anybody besides the submissive in question, before playing with him.
If TP told you that I was simply going to talk with him, then that is something you should take up with TP. I never told you I was only going to talk with him.
And as you don’t normally consult me before playing with your play partners, I don’t normally expect to consult you before playing with mine.
If my submissive friend has played with you since that party, then fine, that’s his choice to do.
“As for cleaning the room you left USED wet wipes all over the room as well as some other stuff”
I suppose your definition of “all over the room” differs from mine. I left the wipes in the bin. Perhaps I should have left clean wipes all over the room?
What other stuff?
Neither Snow, nor TP, nor anybody else at that party ever said anything to me about any problem they had with the way I’d left the room, or indeed, about any other issue with my participation at that party.
I saw TP and Snow quite a few times after the party, and they never made any mention of any issue to me, ever. I was invited back to their home several times, although I declined those invitations.
If anybody had a problem with me personally, surely it would have made more sense, and had a more beneficial result, if they’d approached me directly?
If there is a problem which nobody ever tells me about, then I can’t be expected to know anything about it, nor be expected to do anything to rectify it.
I will consider this a problem if I hear about it directly from TP and/or Snow. But to be honest, at over a year after the fact, it’s a bit late now.
“you also left the party after the organiser spoke to you about subs going into sub space, it was left up to others to look after the sub..you pissed off home.”
Since you did not stay the night at the party, you won’t know that I did, in fact, stay the night. I did stay with my submissive friend the entire time before he went home in a taxi. TP sat with me the whole time I was with my submissive friend, and continued to sit with me for some time after my submissive friend went home in a taxi.
So I could not have left before my submissive friend. TP invited me to bunk in with himself and Snow. As a result, Biscuit got to sleep in the guest bed in the room I’d played in. I would have slept in that room if I hadn’t bunked in with TP and Snow.
I had no contact information for my submissive friend, so I’d rung TP to find out how he was doing. TP assured me that he was doing fine. TP knows I checked afterwards to find out how he was doing. And TP knows I didn’t leave my submissive friend for others to care for whilst he was in subspace.
“How come you no longer get ANY invites to ANY parties?”
Um. Actually, I receive invites to parties, and attend them regularly. Your social circle isn’t the only one available to me.
If there really were such a big problem as you describe, then I’m not surprised I don’t get invited to those parties which you attend.
“could it be you are the one NOT to be trusted.”
I don’t understand what you mean. Where in my post did I say anything about anybody not to be trusted?
And a big hello to the other readers of my blog. Welcome to my life. :p
triode // Monday, 29 October, 2007 at 19:49:50 |
I believe I attended the party discussed above. The events are essentially as L describes them, apart from what happened in the bedroom. Which is none of my business — and no one else’s apart from the two people concerned.
I observed the sub at some point after the bedroom scene. He appeared spaced out but not distressed. More like in Heaven. I thought he might have been on something other than drink, but it was probably just subspace.
L was offered a lift back to Belfast which she declined as she had been offered to stay the night.
The arguments about who said what about who and why someone pinched someone’s nipple seems a bit trivial.
It is not clear to me if the Abusive Dominant mentioned by L is supposed to be Scarlett. If so that is rubbish. The first time I met Scarlett was some years ago and she took pains to emphasise the importance of safe play. Subsequently I have attended a few parties where she was present and she showed no indication of being an Abusive Dominant. Nor have I heard any suggestion or even gossip that she is.
I do wish people in the bdsm community would stop sniping at each other. It is not much fun.
triode
Lady Lubyanka // Monday, 29 October, 2007 at 20:43:47 |
“It is not clear to me if the Abusive Dominant mentioned by L is supposed to be Scarlett. If so that is rubbish. The first time I met Scarlett was some years ago and she took pains to emphasise the importance of safe play. Subsequently I have attended a few parties where she was present and she showed no indication of being an Abusive Dominant. Nor have I heard any suggestion or even gossip that she is.”
I regret that I wasn’t clearer that the term “abusive dominant” was referring to what I had been told about the submissive by the person who invited me to the party, and by what the submissive himself had told me. I used the term in that context, and not in any context relating to my own experience with Scarlett.
The term “abusive dominant” was not based on my own personal experience of Scarlett’s play. I have almost no personal experience of Scarlett. The only nonconsensual activity I have personally witnessed from her was the unconsensual nipple tweak I mentioned in the post. Other than that, I could not offer any assessment as to what kind of dominant Scarlett is.
I had no intention of accusing any dominant of abuse. I certainly did not intend to infer or imply that Scarlett is an abusive dominant. In my post, I was referring to what I had been told, and nothing else.
I had not formed a personal opinion of Scarlett or her play practices. I intended to convey no such opinion. I regret that I did not ensure this was clearer in my post.
I hope I have made this clearer now.
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Lubyanka.
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